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Posted by Sunset, June 9, 2008 in Ornamentals

By Sharon Cohoon and Jim McCausland, senior Sunset garden writers

_mg_6051 Jim and I are both back at our respective desks today after manning the Question-and-Answer booth at Sunset Celebration—last weekend's big reader event at our headquarters in Menlo Park.

This is the 11th year we've had our major lawn party, and the eleventh year we've hosted a Q&A booth. But it's the first year we've had any questions about peonies. Ten years in a row not a single one.

Then this year it's the number one topic—more questions about peonies than any other subject. So what happened?

Really, curious minds would like to know. What got you interested? Using them as cut flowers? Seeing them in a nursery? Someone else’s garden?

_mg_6002 We’d also like to know what you are growing and what kind of success you are having. Your interest seems to be bucking the current trend towards minimal care plants like succulents. It’s not that peonies are prima donnas exactly—if correctly planted and happy with their situation, they can last 50 years or more—but they’re not as bullet-proof as, say, society garlic.

Your determination to succeed with a little more challenging plant intrigues and, frankly, rather thrills us. So tell us about your new passion.

 If you live in Southern California and have had luck with traditional herbaceous peonies, which aren’t supposed to grow here, tell me about it. I’ve been told certain cultivars—the gorgeous maroon-flowered ‘Kansas’ being one of them—can succeed here if grown in full shade. But until one of you confirms this from your own experience, I’m dubious.

_mg_6032If you live outside Southern California and are growing peonies, tell Jim about it. Let him know whether you’re growing herbaceous peonies, tree peonies, or the new intersectional hybrids like 'Hilliary' (above) or 'Bartzella' (both shots below). Where did you get them, and why did you choose the varieties you grow: color, leaf shape, durability in your climate?

We’ll post responses if they reflect trends, or if they offer hints that might help others succeed with these lovely Asian flowers. But mostly we're trend-spotting here: we really do want to know what's driving this!

 

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There's some kind of peony fever going around. Martha Stewart just posted a whole big peony gallery last night. Margaret Roach recently posted about peonies. You guys posted that exquisite photo just a week or two ago. I know that photo got ME thinking about peonies again. I've always wanted to give them a go, and there are those who say they'll grow in the Bay Area, but I've been reluctant. It's not that I'm shy about trying something and risking it dying on me — I'm definitely not — but peonies don't come cheap.

I'm pretty devout about water-wise planting but that's in part so that I can splurge very carefully and cautiously on one or two things that want a little extra water or attention. Maybe it's time for me to finally give a peony a try. I was born in Kansas and didn't know there was a peony by the name, so perhaps I'll start there — thanks for mentioning it.

Posted by:Karen Templer | June 10, 2008 at 08:55 AM

I want a peony, too. I fell in love with them at Filoli gardens, then wondered why I don't see them in San Jose, where I live. Then I saw some at a park in Medford, Oregon, where they didn't seem to be getting special care. Why do I love them? They're luscious like a rose, but more wild-looking.

So.... can I grow them in San Jose?????

Posted by:Sheila | June 10, 2008 at 10:56 PM

I suggest you move out to the beautiful midwest! You will have sooo many peonies to choose from. I once lived on the westcoast and had never seen them in person. I have them everywhere now. They are absolutely amazing.

Posted by:barngyrl | June 11, 2008 at 06:54 PM

Karen's comment is right on point: save your water for a few wonderful things. Yes, peonies grow in San Jose. Next year Monrovia is coming out with a batch of intersectional hybrids. That should bring the price down, and they should perform even better than straight herbaceous ones. --Jim

Posted by:Jim McCausland | June 12, 2008 at 10:09 AM

I will put a note in my head to watch for them next year. Is spring the time to plant?

Posted by:Sheila | June 12, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Fall is optimal planting time.

--Jim

Posted by:Jim McCausland | June 12, 2008 at 03:28 PM

Could just be a coincidence, but here in the Bay Area Trader Joe's has been carrying cut peonies for weeks and weeks.

Maybe that's why people are thinking about them?

Posted by:Elizabeth Jardina | June 13, 2008 at 03:31 PM

Martha's on about peonies again today — a SEA of them:
http://blogs1.marthastewart.com/martha/2008/06/a-peony-party-a.html

Sheila summed up the attraction of peonies perfectly — like a rose but "more wild-looking." I'm not a rose fan but I find peonies almost obscenely attractive.

And now that I know Trader Joe's is selling cut peonies, I know where I'm headed today ...

Posted by:Karen Templer | June 14, 2008 at 07:27 AM

I live in LA and have planted a few peonies -- so far, just leaves, no flowers. They are in partial shade, is there any special food or maintenance you can recommend? Also, are there any gardening groups, societies or orgs here in LA? Would love to join one and learn more.
Thanks much!

Posted by:Citron | June 15, 2008 at 12:40 AM

Karen Templer was nice enough to mention my recent species peony posts, and lead me here to this interesting discussion. I went to Martha's annual Peony Party last Friday, then last night I had a Garden Conservancy benefit at my (much smaller) upstate NY garden, where one nurseryman guest brought me my first intersectional hybrid as a gift, and told me they're now in the tissue-culture lab, so yes, big price cuts ahead. So true that this plant seems to be the buzz again.

Posted by:Margaret | June 15, 2008 at 12:01 PM

I had Coral Charm in my garden for years. I would wait all year for the blooms. Such a beautiful color and a great cut flower. Sold the house and didn't take the peonies with me. This spring I had already decided I need them again and have a spot ready for the tubers this fall.

Posted by:leslie | June 25, 2008 at 05:45 PM

Just wanted to let Sheila know that there's a peony nursery in San Jose called The Garden Window, located at 1425 Essex Way, SJ,CA95117
Email: thegardenwindow.com. And to Citron,...don't give up on your peony plant....mine had only leaves for 2 years before it finally bloomed this year! It was worth the wait!!!

Posted by:Margo | June 25, 2008 at 09:09 PM

One of the things that is important when planting peonies is not to plant them with the eye more than 2 inches below the soil surface. If you plant them deeper you might get nice foliage but no blossoms.

Posted by:Barbara | June 26, 2008 at 04:24 AM

The Garden Window imports their peonies from mainland China. There is a huge Chinese population where I live in Fremont. Perhaps the interest originated with the Chinese and spread when others saw how lovely they are?

Posted by:Dian Zarzycki | June 26, 2008 at 07:22 AM

Thank you for the nursery tip, Margo. Now might be a great time to shop while they're in their glory!

Posted by:Sheila | June 26, 2008 at 09:29 AM

Chateau CharMarron Peony Gardens in San Jose has been growing and selling peonies to the public for 8 years. We offer close to 200 varieties of both herbaceous and tree peonies. Visit our web site http://4peonies.com for pictures, information, map and directions.

Posted by:CharMarron Peony Gardens | June 28, 2009 at 08:27 AM
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